<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><title>XML Namespaces · Grey Nicholson</title><id>https://gkn.me.uk/entries/xmlnamespaces</id><link href="https://gkn.me.uk/entries/xmlnamespaces" rel="alternate"/><link href="https://gkn.me.uk/entries/xmlnamespaces/feed" rel="self"/><author><name>Grey Nicholson</name></author><icon>https://gkn.me.uk/style/icon.svg</icon><updated>2025-10-21T12:11:00+00:00</updated>
<entry><title>Adventures in XML</title><id>https://gkn.me.uk/weblog028</id><link href="https://gkn.me.uk/weblog028" rel="alternate" type="text/html"/><published>2004-04-27T17:40:00+00:00</published><updated>2004-06-07T18:40:00+00:00</updated><content type="html">
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I did manage to get the XML+XSL-based jiggery-pokery for The Twaddle working - quite nicely, actually. Getting the entire contents of the content field onto the page took a little bit of effort, as described &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=71322&amp;amp;sid=7848e3b9bfb83d57adacdde5f19433e9&quot;&gt;on the mozillaZine forums&lt;/a&gt;.
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I won&#x27;t be implementing this on The Twaddle, though - for a start, Opera and KHTML don&#x27;t like XSLT. And it&#x27;s not half as accessible for non-standard browsers (relics, mobile devices, text browsers...) as plain, extraneous-menu-items-and-such-written-into-the-article XHTML is. Nonetheless, a working example is online for the time being.
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Update: the real thing&#x27;s gone live... sort of... so the prototype has been removed. Additional related blurb is contained in &lt;a href=&quot;/weblog035&quot;&gt;a later entry in this weblog&lt;/a&gt;.
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There&#x27;s a slight chance that I might implement an XML-driven article system on Mooquackwooftweetmeow, where I&#x27;m not too fussed about &lt;a href=&quot;http://microsoft.com/ie&quot;&gt;old and/or buggy browsers&lt;/a&gt;. The fact that mobile devices won&#x27;t render the page is more of a concern.
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Perhaps some way of pulling in external XHTML fragments could be handled in CSS3? Then again, why duplicate XSL functionality in CSS - small devices&#x27; browsers could just be taught to handle XSL.
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One more Twaddle-related thing: thanks to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html&quot;&gt;Internet Explorer conditional comments&lt;/a&gt; (on which MSDN has &lt;a href=&quot;http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/ccomment_ovw.asp#Conditional_Comments_Terminology&quot;&gt;an hilarious article&lt;/a&gt;), I&#x27;m now feeding IE users &lt;a href=&quot;http://purl.org/thetwaddle/home/index.html#spur&quot;&gt;some nice propaganda in the foot of the front page&lt;/a&gt;:
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&lt;q&gt;You&#x27;re using Internet Explorer?! You do realise that it&#x27;s years out-of-date, and screws up most modern web pages, don&#x27;t you? In fact it&#x27;s screwing this one up right now and you don&#x27;t even know it. Try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/&quot;&gt;a proper web browser&lt;/a&gt; instead.&lt;/q&gt;
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Oh, and another tiny little piece of The Twaddle-related trivia: the version number on the front page is now in the title text of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://purl.org/thetwaddle/home/index.html#copyright&quot;&gt;copyright notice&lt;/a&gt; - it&#x27;s tidier and it leaves room for a pointless codename.
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Over to the Mooquackwooftweetmeow Weblog now, where, thanks to our old friend XML namespaces, and our newer friend &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=71322&amp;amp;sid=7848e3b9bfb83d57adacdde5f19433e9&quot;&gt;the XSL &lt;code&gt;copy-of&lt;/code&gt; element&lt;/a&gt;, proper links are now in use. I&#x27;ve gone back through the weblog and updated plain text URLs to be links. The more observant of you will have noticed that there have been a smattering of links throughout this post - that&#x27;ll be the norm from now on.
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The even more observant of you will have noticed line breaks as well. I&#x27;d use paragraphs but the XSL stylesheet inserts the content into a paragraph - I don&#x27;t think the &lt;a href=&quot;http://validator.w3.org&quot;&gt;XHTML validator&lt;/a&gt; would like paragraphs within paragraphs (not that it&#x27;d like this Atom file at all...). And I don&#x27;t think the site&#x27;s CSS would like &lt;code&gt;div&lt;/code&gt;s to hold the text, in place of paragraphs; it might - I just haven&#x27;t looked at mqwtm&#x27;s CSS in ages so I can&#x27;t remember. Besides, line breaks are lighter on the markup than open-and-close &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;xhtml:p&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; tags.
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And in a final twist of XMLish loveliness, I&#x27;ve chucked a few XHTML &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; tags in as well.
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&lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;/epic&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt;
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<entry><title>Namespaces are fairly fun</title><id>https://gkn.me.uk/weblog007</id><link href="https://gkn.me.uk/weblog007" rel="alternate" type="text/html"/><published>2004-02-19T18:30:00+00:00</published><updated>2004-04-27T17:40:00+00:00</updated><content type="html">
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The Feed Validator (&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedvalidator.org&quot;&gt;http://feedvalidator.org&lt;/a&gt;) gave me a thumbs-down :( Entries&#x27; IDs have to be valid URLs, you see, and I&#x27;d been using them as arbitrary labels. I&#x27;d also been leeching off these arbitrary labels in order to create anchors in the XHTML representation of the feed; those using a web browser can check they work by clicking this item&#x27;s title; those using a news aggregator can visit the alternate link; in both cases, the item&#x27;s title should be at the very top of the browser window.
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I managed to circumvent Atom&#x27;s rigidity using XML&#x27;s flexibility - I invented a new arbitrary label for each item - &lt;code&gt;label&lt;/code&gt;, under my own namespace; I now have everything working as before, plus a valid feed. Glory!
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I think I&#x27;ll go and play a bit of pool now...
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